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1965 CJ-5 Tuxedo Park IV New Haven, CT **SOLD**

January 15, 2013 • CATEGORIES: CJ5 • TAGS: , . This site contains affiliate links for which I may be compensated.
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Nice looking restoration.

“1965 Jeep CJ-5A Tuxedo Park Mark IV
ID# 832215083  Dauntless V6 Engine, 4 speed Standard

Incredibly done, body off, absolutely perfect CJ 5A very rare Tuxedo Park
Mark IV.
A Buick (standard Jeep issue) 225 Dauntless V-6 engine that purrs like new,
and the rest you can certainly tell from the pictures.
There are only two notable issues; driver door window crack, and it is a
little tough braking.
Shifts perfectly, all correct Jeep except the tail lights. These are chrome
but not correct for this year.
Power lock differential front and rear. Interior is amazing. Hard to find
Jeep hub caps.
Note the truck is a color change; Paint Code 230 was Parkway Green; Trim
Code 225 was Green Vinyl Pleat. Who cares.
Beautifully done in every regard, a real must to the Jeep collector.
Remember it’s a Tuxedo Mark IV.”

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31 Comments on “1965 CJ-5 Tuxedo Park IV New Haven, CT **SOLD**”

  1. gordon west

    I had a flyer, or something, for the Tuxedo Park Mark IV when I was a kid. I think it was park of the reason I started saying that “real Jeeps were only made before 1955”. (I didn’t know then that CJ3B’s were made into the ’60’s). I still can’t understand what those marketing guys were thinking with that dumb name!!

  3. mmdeilers Post author

    My thought was they were hoping to create a ‘gentleman’s’ brand? I would be interested to know the history behind the name, too.

  4. Mike Finegan

    Back in the early 1960’s, there was a Jeep parts distribution depot in West Nyack, Rockland County, NY. Tuxedo Park, was a nearby town also in Rockland County, NY. I believe this is where the name came from. At the time, Kaiser Jeep was as always trying to broaden it’s market appeal to a more “upper class” market. Tuxedo Park was and still is a very well to do community, so it was the obvious thing to do to increase sales. Some of Kaiser Jeeps early magazine advertising with the first generation Tuxedo Park CJ5 was photographed in the driveway of one of the great mansions located in Tuxedo Park, NY. The first Tuxedo Park CJ5 hit the market as a 1962 model year. The featured color was an off white with red grill and wheels and white wall tires. They featured a soft top which was marketed as the first “convertible” Jeep top because it was the first top to fold back. I remember riding through the community of Tuxedo Park as a child and actually seeing a Tuxedo Park model parked in a driveway.

  5. david

    Most TPs are 3 speed on the column. I’m told the Buick V6 gave you a floor shift. Question, could you get a 4 speed in the TP MK IV?

  7. Mike Finegan

    David, You raise a good question about the 4 speed transmission. I have a original advertising brochure for the CJ5 V/6 dated, Form No.65-07 R1 which states the following under options available; 4 speed transmission available with the 4cyl. Hurricane engine ONLY. This leads me to believe that this trans is not original to this Tuxedo Park Jeep. What makes this Jeep “suspect” is also the fact that it is listed as a 1965. The V/6 was available from the factory beginning with the 1966 model year. Yes the TP models did have 3 speed column shift. So there are a lot of questions about it’s originality. I think I’ll email this guy for more information.

  8. david

    I have sources that say the V6 came out in 65. That didnt bother me. Spoke to seller, Seller says its a three speed w. overdrive.

    I dont understand the 3 levers tho, I have heard of them with an overdrive, I dont know how that works. There are three levers in the pix. Is that a high-low range? 6 speeds total or one extra gear for 4th?

    Some folks say that all TPs had column shift, but I’ve heard elsewhere that all dauntless motors had floor shifts. Might that have to do with the top-loader design.

    Here are pix of my dad’s TP, he bought it in the late 60s and parked it in the barn and never drove it, a virtual time capsule. We pulled it from the barn after he died in 2010. Alas the engine was stuck.
    See, http://tinyurl.com/44khp4k

  11. david

    No, I got snookered out of that particular Jeep, but that is a whole nudder story. I did manage to purchase the roof, cab and doors back, which I intend to put on this TP, yes the one on this very auction, to make it like my pop’s jeep, same year and trim. I bought the jeep on this auction and intend to make it more like my dad’s which I remember.

    I’m told tho, some afterbrand tops may have been sold new from the factory or dealer. Anyone confirm that? Also transmission and engine options to be confirmed other than Internet reposted hearsay whould be good!!

  12. Mike Finegan

    David, glad to hear you bought the Ebay Jeep. Yes, aftermarket tops were sold direct from the dealer; the one on your new purchase likes like a Kelly top. I have a Meyer top on My 66 CJ5 . I remember when it was new and knew all the owners. I bought in 1978. I have 3 Jeeps, 48 CJ2A, 62 Willys Wagon and the 66 CJ5. Feel free to email me with any questions. Good luck with your new Jeep.
    modmike1949@hotmail.com

  13. Bill

    David-

    Here’s the 8-page Tux specific brochure:

    http://photobucket.com/TuxedoPark8

    I think the VIN on this Jeep in the auction indicates it was originally a 4-cyl. A Dauntless equipped CJ-5A would be vin # 8322 A xxxxx. The ‘A’ is the V6 indicator.

    Best of luck with that Jeep, it looks great!

    Bill

  15. Bill

    D-

    It seems the advertising budget for the Tux was substantial…. good for collectors now.

    For the Tux Mk III fans…..

    http://youtu.be/-dRT2EYBPI8

    So I was watching a classic film the other day (in english) and I noticed something Indian Ceramic in the background (watch from 1:12 on). Sorry I couldn’t find a better version on youtube!

    😉 Bill

  16. david

    Yes, that’s the same brochure my dad had when he bought his 65. At that time the V6 was not an option, but the warn overdrive is. On my prior link, you can clearly see the vin tag, 8322 (no A) followed by the 11702.

    Here is a 66 with win 8322 A 15693, showing a Dauntless V6 and a warn overdrive. Note the twin sticks, just like this auction jeep. http://tinyurl.com/b6qqa6u

    This vin is 15083, closer in sequence to the above 66. Does anyone have the sequence numbers per model year?

    I wish the auction jeep had a shot of the vin tag.

  17. mike

    I do believe this to be a column shift dash,if you look at the provided pictures you can see the large gap above the steering column.

  18. david

    Yes, I think your right. I confirmed the VIN with a photo of the tag. This is a 1965 with a build date in May. Vin breakdown can be found here -> http://cj3b.info/Photos/SerialNumbers/SerialNosMonthly6567.gif

    This would have been a 4 cyl hurricane with a column shift, and one stick down by the firewall for engaging 4wd.

    The configuration shown appears correct for a 66, (starting in Aug 65) but who knows what the engine build no and transfer case is. It is a damn nice jeep tho.

    Knowing that most all old jeeps are not original, how does the engine upgrade here effect its value?

  19. Bill

    David-

    I think this can go either way in terms of value…. to the purists, the original motor and trans should be present (especially when the VIN dictates what should be there). BUT, the V6 is such an awesome motor, that anyone who’s intentions are to drive and enjoy the Jeep would not see it as less valuable. Some may like double+ horsepower levels and think it’s even more valuable.

    I am putting a green ’65 Tux back to ‘purist’ level stock right now…. and it is hard to keep it that way when I have the influence of a ’66 V6, a ’67 V6, + 2 other V6 engines sitting here on the shop floor waiting to go in that engine bay! My motor is done and installed, so I will finish this one as a 4-cyl and maybe take it to a B-J (televised/overpriced) auction and hope for it get bid to $50k+…. then come home and build myself a V6 to that same level.

    My build:

    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.338558049489577.90534.338546552824060&type=3

    I still need help finding “Town & Country” style snow tires with whitewalls if anyone knows a source!

    -Bill

  20. david

    Looking at your facebook pics, where did you get the fancy trim rings, and should two of the hubcaps have cut outs for the axle. This jeep will come only with 4 dog dishes.

    Any mebe I’ll have to bid on yours and have 2! One for nice, one for play 😉

  21. Bill

    David-

    Dont hold your breath waiting for mine, I’ve been moving along very slowly on it!

    The 2-piece cap (trim ring + dog dish) cap is apparently correct for the Tuxedo Park. There are instances where we find the similar design 1-piece full cap in its place. Somebody once told me it was a “supplier issue”, not a different order code. Not sure this has ever been confirmed. Some of the brochure paintings look to me like the cap is 1-piece, but it’s hard to tell.

    My full set of used caps came off a ’66 Tux when a friend of a friend bought it new and removed them almost immediately because he thought they were stupid (he also took off the chrome rear bumper and painted the front one black at the same time!). My friend pulled the caps/rings out of the trash, put them in a box, and stuck them in his garage. That was 1966… last year when I bought my Tuxedo Park, he gave me the box of used caps. 🙂

    The NOS trim rings popped up on CraigsList a few months ago and I went after them in a second. The guy worked 2 blocks away and he had them in his truck. Big 🙂

    Keep in touch, stop in anytime you’re in Lancaster!

    Bill

  22. david

    Bill

    Did I met you at the Kempton Willys show at the WK&S RR station? Were you there this year?

    Anyway, the Seller confirmed, this was a 1965 4cyl jeep, and the transmission in the jeep is the correct T86 for the V6. The transfer case is the correct for that year jeep with single lever.

    Does that mean I can expect a later civilian version of the Dana 18 or the final large case version. It sound to me like someone popped in a V6 engine and trans but kept the original 4 cyl type transfer case. Any issues in mating the two?

  23. Karen

    I have a 66 TP with 33k original miles and EVERY paper where my dad ordered it and all manuals. It has the dauntless, on the floor, Indian ceramic – paint was original until last summer when I painted it (Indian Ceramic) no rust – was outside of Phoenix it’s whole life. But I got tired of the pepto bismal pink it had faded to. Everything as original as I can keep it. If I didn’t have to cut off a bolt when I took it apart to paint it I used the same bolt to put it back together.

    I will cry if I need to sell it to make improvements on my property. I’ve had it for the last 15 years.
    Karen

  24. mmdeilers Post author

    Karen,

    Would you mind sending me photos of your jeep? I’d love to share it with readers! You can send the photos and any information to me at d@ewillys.com

    Thanks,

    – Dave

  25. Bill

    Indian Ceramic ’66 Tuxedo Park? That is interesting, as the brochures say that color is for standard universal CJ-5 only that year. Not to say it couldn’t happen, but it would be quite unique!

    Pics please! 😉

    Bill

  26. Karen

    Broshures must be incomplete, it’s been in the family every day of its life and the original order states INDIAN CERAMIC.

  27. Bill

    Karen- since this conversation originally took place, I have seen other 66+ Tux’s in Indian Ceramic… I guess the brochures weren’t pushing it, but it did happen.

    Bill

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