Here’s two offroad retreads we can’t get in the United States (to the best of my knowledge). They are available from technopneu in Quebec (information courtesy of Felix at our new Quebec bureau!) & in the UK as shown below.
I’m not sure who operates the Jeep.US41.org website (I couldn’t find his name, but saw his picture), but he has put together a long, well written webpage on Lifts.
Here’s an excerpt from the page: Whether or not you off-road in your Jeep, you will eventually catch the Jeep bug, and you will find yourself suffering from “Lift Envy.” Lift Envy is a disease that causes Jeep owners to lust after higher lifted vehicles with bigger and bigger tires underneath them every time a “superior” Jeep drives past. But what the heck is a lift, and what is involved in going bigger? This article explains it all.
NOTE: I suspect I will revisit and update this post as I learn more from both readers and the internet.
I’ve been meaning to get to a post about retreaded offroad tires for a while, but really wanted to do more research on it, such as obtaining actual prices, shipping estimates, etc.
But, then Jim emailed me excited that he found retreaded tires that could be delivered to his door step at a total cost less than $400. He said I needed to share this with readers and he is right.
I told him I already knew about the tires and was aware of sources; however, that thing called ‘time’ kept getting in the way of me posting information about it. Also, I was about ready to purchase some retreads about which I’d planned to share with readers as a part of the post, but then Mitch made me an offer on some tires that I simply HAD to explore, so a purchase of retreads got put aside.
But, Jim’s comment made me realize it would be better to talk about what I’ve learned so far and let readers add to the discussion rather than try to figure it all out myself. So, here it goes …..
First, let me say that I have never used retreads, so I have no personal experience with them. My summary is based on research and some feedback from readers.
- Retreaded tires are cheap, as low as $50 for an ‘offroad’ tire in some cases. Between expense and shipping, these can still be far less than new tires.
- Because these are retreads, sizes and options are usually very limited.
- A study by the Virginia Department of Transportation found that he failure rate of retreads was less than 1%.
- A 2 1/2 year study by Virginia’s State Police found that many of the treads found on the roads were from new tires, not recapped, and that underinflation of tires appears to be the number 1 cause of tire failure.
- ‘Keep your tires properly inflated’ was what I read over and over for both new and retreaded tires.
- Retreads are also environmentally friendly. Tires are basically petro-chemical products. It takes approximately 22 gallons of oil to manufacture one new truck tire. Most of the oil is found in the casing, which is reused in the retreading process. As a result, it takes only approximately 7 gallons of oil to produce a retread. (note, these 22 & 7 stats appeared in a variety of places, but I cannot attest to their accuracy)
- Retreads are not only cost effective, according to retread.org, but they are also dependable, reliable and safe. Retreads are used by truckers with scheduled delivery times, small package delivery companies with guaranteed delivery times, including the U.S. Postal Service, on commercial and military jets, by most school bus operators, taxis, and many other types of vehicles.
- According to the Federal Safety Standards developed by the United States Department of Transportation, retreaded tires can be driven at the same speeds as new tires with no loss in safety or comfort. And with proper maintenance and care, they deliver about the same mileage as new tires.
- Retreaders sell approximately 33 million retread or recapped tires annually.
OFFROAD RETREAD OPTIONS
Stone Tire (Here’s a link to a post about them)
Import Export Tire from La Trobe Pa (You can see the V-Grips on Gerald’s CJ-3B).
SOS Tire in Martin’s Ferry, Oh, sells the V-Grip (possibly by another name). I have no link for the website, but a reader named Travis has purchased the tires for two of his vehicles and says they have worked great.
Check retread.org for more possible locations
The Tire Retread and Information Buruea at retread.org is a non-profit, member supported, industry association dedicated to the recycling of tires through tire retreading and tire repairing. Additionally, according to the website, this association is not engaged in legislative or technical matters, which I interpret to mean they are not a lobbying body, but purely an informational resource.
According to the website, retreaded tires can “be driven at the same speeds, including highway and Interstate speeds, as new tires, with no loss in safety or comfort. Virtually all of the world’s airlines use retreads. Retreaded tires are used on school buses, racing cars, taxis, trucks, and Federal and U.S. military vehicles. These users all know that retreaded tires can be depended upon for safe and dependable performance.”
- JP Magazine’s Review of the Tires
- The City of Santa Monica (California) has been using retreaded tires for more than 20 years. According to the City, its entire fleet, consisting of 585 vehicles, uses retreaded tires.
- The City of Davis (California) has purchased retreaded truck tires of 10R22.5 and larger since 1993. These tires are installed on the rear axle only, not the front axle. The city installs them on all city trucks including fire trucks. The city even attempted to utilize retreaded light truck tires for pickups and other small trucks, but had numerous failures due to retreading low quality tire casings. Therefore, the city no longer uses retreaded tires on light trucks.
4 Terra Tires nearly new on nice rims for only $400. That’s a good price.
“set of 4 Yokahama Geolander M/T Tires on 15×8 older jeep wheels, lugs are 5×5.5, includes lug nuts tires are 33×12.50×15. $200 for the set of 4, about 65-75% tread left. Set of 4 Goodyear Terra Tires, like new only used 3 times, mounted on older jeep aluminum wheels. Wheels are 15×12 wide with 5×5.5 bolt pattern, with lug nuts $400. Set of 2 1/2 inch lift springs to fit the flatfender Willys jeep, these were on a CJ3B $125. Warn 8274-50 upright winch, 125 feet of cable, only used 5 times. This is the 50th anniversary model $425. Have more pictures if you would like.”
UPDATE: The website’s online purchases and inventory is offline. It appears they are gearing up to allow users to use Major Credit Cards rather than just paypal. Though Stone Tire calls the tires Ugly Dog, I suspect these tires are the same ones made for the Import/Export Tire Company by Comptred and called V-Grips. It appears Import/Export also sells the other two tires as well and other offroad retreads.
UPDATE (06/07/09): I sent the company an email, asking if they could potentially make a desert dog for racing and sending them some examples. I heard nothing back from my June 7th email.
“I have a set of 4 steel wheels that came off a CJ3B Willys Jeep. 5 on 5.5 bolt pattern and I believe 3.75″ backspacing.
Wheels are dirty but in good shape. $25 cash. 360-852-6189″
These have been sale for more than two years (assuming they haven’t been sold already). Obviously, the price is pretty high. I’ve been waiting for the price to drop … and still waiting.
“8 slot triangles, original white paint, chrome valve stems, new, 4, with Formula Desert Dog 10-15 LT tires, new, mounted, balanced, 4, $1150″
Here’s some terra tires out of Michigan.
“I have 2 like new terra tires on 15×10 Buggy rims for the big 5 bolt pattern. they are in really good shape with no dry rot always stored indoors and very little use. I bought them from a guy that said he used them twice and sold the buggy I was going to put them on and I am tired of tripping over them. $300 is what I paid and I haven’t used them so thats what I want. I will consider trades for???? shoot me trade offers.”
“HAVE A SET OF FOUR GOOD SHAPE WITH TUBES AND THEY NEVER LOSE AIR ON 5X51/2 BOLT PATTERN 12″ WIDE STEEL WHEELS. SELL TWO FOR $250 OR ALL 4 FOR $450 AS A SET. THEY MEASURE 31″ TALL & 15 1/2″ WIDE”
These look in good shape with good tread. Someone out there on the east coast was looking for these. If they weren’t so far away, I’d snap these up. These are the newer, old dogs. You can tell by the outlined letters. Earlier dogs had solid letters.
“I have for sale a nice pair of Formula Desert Dog 10-15LT tires. Real good tread left, I had them on the back of my buggy and they dug nice and stayed clean. One is on a volkswagen 4 bolt rim. Asking $50 for the pair. Call/text Nate at 330-352-7356″
UPDATE: Those these are branded Desert Dog II, they appear to be similar to the Desert Dog PCV.
These are located in Port Huron, Mi. I’ve never seen this style of Desert Dog Tire. Nor have I seen the “Desert Dog II” model. These must be very old, though the side walls still look good.
“2- 28/10 15″ Formula Desert Dog II tires. Good tread came off of sandrail.”
“REDUCED TO SELL!!! We have a NEARLY NEW pair of Goodyear Terra-Tires for sale. They are for OFF-ROAD only; (ATV or ???) Size: 31 X 15.50 X 15 NHS; “Super Terra-Grip” with a 4 ply rating. Tread stands nearly an inch high. We bought these for a Jeep we had, and never used them. They don’t fit any of our current vehicles, so we have no reason to hold on to them. $150 is really a steal! Call Steve @489-1659. They are no longer mounted on the 6 lug rims (shown in the picture). We paid to have them dismounted for a buyer (who backed out), but the rims are included – if you want them.”
“Jeep mags 15 x 7 for the 5 x 5 1/2 bolt pattern set of four 100.00″
Joshua purchased a Bantam Trailer the other day and it came with 2 BFG 33×12.5r15 tires. He’s asking $75 for them. Apparently, they have a bit of tread and a bit uneven wear. If interested, you can contact Joshua at 208-830-2226.
Here’s the tires:
Here’s an extra pic of Joshua’s recent find with more appropriate tires:
“2 older style Goodyear Terra Tires on ‘wide 5′ steel wheels. Great tread, although they may need tubes. Odd size, close to 31/13/15. Tread pattern similar to the ones pictured”
“Terra tractor tires like paddel tires 8 lug steel wheels”
“I have a pair of Goodyear Super Terra tires in great shape. They are 31 inches tall and 15 1/2 inches wide, they are mounted on a set of 15 inch by 5 on 5 1/2 bolt pattern steel wheels that were just powdercoated. These tires are the 4 ply version which means when the air pressuse is low the sidewalls will flex unlike the 8 ply industrial tires. These tires work great in mud or sand. These will bolt on to Jeeps, Broncos, Fords, Internationals and others that share the same bolt pattern. Thanks Robert 503-543-3644″
These look like they have not been used much.
“I have a full set of dune paddle tires. They came off of my cj5 jeep. Asking $1200 OBO. They have only been used 2-3 times, wheels are a 5-lug pattern. The wheels are painted orange to match my jeep. The tires are a 31×15.50 R15. Come as is shown in the pictures. No trades. Serious inquires only.”
“5 Mickey Thompson Baja Claw Tires for Sale. These are 31 x 10.50 R15 off my Jeep. They are Radials not Bias Ply. 4 of these tires have about 20k miles on them and are at about 60% tread. the 5th tire was my spare and has 100% tread.
There are no nicks or tears in the tread. The only off road these tires saw was sand. I have added more lift and went up to a bigger tire so these need a new home. If you are looking for a nice, quiet road tire, these are not for you. If you are looking for serious off road traction, these are the ticket. These tires will howl on the highway but won’t leave you stuck off road!”
“this is a good set of aluminum mods 15in will fit jeep cj or ford pu bronco full size email any ? or call cell virgil 503-839-5316 or ralph 503-771-0157″
“5 on 5 1/2″ bolt pattern. 15×10″. Fits ’86 and older Jeep CJ’s, Willys, 1/2 ton Fords, Bronco, Scout, Samurai, some Dodge, and others. $100 for all 4. Excellent shape. Much better quality than most of what you buy now …. ”
“This is a pair of (two) chrome modular wheels. They are 12 inches wide with a 15 inch rim. The backspacing is 4 inches, in other words, the wheels are 8 inches deep to the center on the outside and 4 inches deep on the inside. They are in very good shape, no rust or scratches. The do not come with center caps or lug nuts. These have a 5 on 5.5 inch bolt pattern…”
“I have 4 of these 15″ wheels. These fit the old style DANA 44 axles. They are for some big mud tires. Two measure 10″ wide for the front and two measute 12″ wide for the back they have deep offsets. They would be perfect for Super Swampers, Terra Tires, Boggers, or any Mudders. Please call Stuart at (360) 698-2384.”
We’ve got a reader (name?) in the 360 area code (south western washington state I believe) who is looking for some 15 x 12 rims with a 5 x 5 1/2 bolt pattern.
A quick search revealed at least two sets:
If you have any for sale, give the reader a call.
I think these are Goodyear Super Terra Grip tires.
“I purchased these tires and wheels on craigslist for my Jeep and they are a great. The problem is they will not fit over my calipers on the front of my 1978 cj5, DAMIT! They fit great on the back yet won’t match anything else I have to run if I only run two on the back. Any way, if you want some bad ass tires for a sand rail or something that two on the back is all you need and they fit it is a great deal. I am asking $500.00 for two and $800.00 for the set of 4. Thanks for looking and Merry Christmas to you. (360) 607-5677 Dan.”