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DJ-3A Carter Carb Forms

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Matthew was kind enough to send along a scan he did of the YF2392s Carter Carburetor used on a variety of DJ-3As. This is Form 5170A. A later form, 5170D, features the YF2392sa version of the carb.

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I’ll include here a comment from this discussion of these same carbs, which also includes the linkage issue I ran into, that was copied by Charles Tate from a now-non-working-thread from an old CJ-3Bpage discussion (that quoted Bruce Agan):

Hi Barry. As a DJ3A Enthusiast I have to limit my response to that carburetor only.

Quote from Bruce Agan (jeepsurreygala.com) and premier expert on DJ3A Dispatchers September 20, 2011 07:42 PM

“the dj has always used the YF carb. 1955-56 parts lists show both the YF 2392 & YF 738S & 738SA carbs used on the early DJs. the YF 738 carb was the original carb used on the 4-63, VJ-2, VJ-3 (Jeepster”

Quote from OLDTIME from Deriks CJ3B bulletin board

“The specifications for the 2392 S are not identical to the more commonly found Jeep YF carburetors.
That implies differences such as the main metering jets, the metering rods etc. ”

Those specifications can be seen on Carter form #’s 5170 and 5170d

The difference between yf2392s and 2392sa was likely going from a air bypass check ball an air bypass check needle.

As said Barry I know absolutely nothing about the earlier CJ3A carbureator per sey. What I ‘think’ is that the YF Series carburetor used on the DJ3A dispatcher had a larger throat bore.

IF SO, then we can refer back to this comment from KEN (OLDTIME)

“Larger diameter throat bore = decrease air velocity = increase of the air % to fuel % = lean fuel mix =
better operation at high altitude or burnt valves at designated altitude”

If all of the above is true then it might also be true that better operation doesn’t necessarily equate to more actual horsepower???

More information and my actual rebuilding of a yf2392s carburetor here along with some of the research quoted”

 
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1976 CJ-5 Sussex, WI $14,000

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Someone went all out with this rebuild.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3678135442466654

“1976 Jeep CJ 5, 304ci V-8, Custom headers, 4 spd (Granny Low), 3.70 (stock) rear end, Fiberglass Tub(all other steel is Jeep o.g.), Original Jeep hardtop, Full frame off restoration finished in 2010, Rebuilt Engine, Trans, Rear End, Brakes ect. 12,000 miles since restoration, Have original bumpers, Have back seat(matches front seats), Custom Straight Line Interior. $14,000”

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1970 CJ-5 (Canada-made) Hamden, CT $10,000

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John and Jeff shared this Canadian-made CJ-5. It looks in good shape. That’s a curious radio setup in the dash.

https://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/d/hamden-vintage-wd-1970-jeep-cj5-with/7718824121.html

or https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/776254771044083/

“Unique GM Buick “fireball” 90-degree 225 cu in (3.7 L) “The Dauntless” V6 engine.
🔹Ample horsepower curve at 160HP and broad torque of 235 ft. lbs.
🔹T-14 manual three-speed transmission with Dana 18 transfer case with a single stick.
🔹2-barrel carburetor.
🔹Dana 27A 4.88 gears open diff front axle.
🔹Possibly the factory 30 spline one-piece flanged offset rear diff Dana 44.
🔹15-inch Kelsey Hayes rim and hub
🔹11-gallon gas tank located under the driver seat.
🔹Meyer M-III Cab, safety glass station wagon visibility.
🔹Roll-down windows, and easy-access rear opening.
🔹Custom-classic Meyer U-13 Serial Electric Hydraulic snowplow pump.

🗽Ride proud and take home a piece of Americana’s culture and history. It is a definite classic collector item. The 1970 Jeep CJ-5 is an iconic vehicle that holds a special place in automotive history and the Buick “fireball” V6 left a lasting mark on automotive history.

💰Place your offer by DM, text, email, or in person. The starting offer must be more than $10,000. Serious offers only. Kindly, place your highest and best offer.”

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1956 CJ-3B Abington, CT $15,000

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UPDATE: Still Available.

(11/25/2023) This has a rare ventilation windshield. This appears to have been part of a Salem Air Station Search and Rescue Team.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1010014566870701

“F Head 4 cylinder
Motor rebuilt 2 years ago
Restored 20 years ago
Mileage 2,000 on motor since rebuild
Comes with soft top and doors”

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1947 CJ-2A Yucaipa, CA $4000

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UPDATE: Price dropped to $4000 .. I thought this one had sold.

(07/03/2023) It’s a project with a 283/t90 combo and 2 225 Buick V6s, along with an SM420.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/943048480129807

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“1947 Willy’s Jeep CJ2A. M38 body CJ3a windshield T-90 3 speed 283 small block Chevy Motor is good, just pulled it to replace the distributor and I take manifold. Motor is still out, I don’t have time or desire to finish it. Trades welcome. Examples: Center Console fishing boat Ford Maverick Grabber and other muscle cars (1975 and older) Truck bed camper 8′ Hobie PA14 Datsun 510 / Z Honda XR650L”

 
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1948 CJ-2A Belleville, IL $7900

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This includes the trailer (M101?).

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/353999697393086

“Runs good had to take it off the market due to starter problems put new starter plugs points battery good to go $7,900 for Jeep and trailer nobody has even looked at it yet can’t believe it”

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1948 CJ-2A/MB Alma, MI **SOLD**

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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $6500.

It’s a combination of MB and CJ-2A and other parts, but it is a budget friendier flat fender option.

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“4 Sale By Owner 1948 Willys CJ2A
-Engine: Dauntless V6 -VIN/Serial#: 211056 -12 Volt -Manual Transmission -4 Wheel Drive -Electric In Line Fuel Pump -Windshield Is Complete But Glass Is Cracked -Black Out Lights (New) -Mechanical Fuel Pump Is Included -Tailgate Mount Jerry Can -All 3 Seat Frames -Very Nice Body – No Rust -Frame Is Good – Beefed Up At Some Point -Key Switch/Key (New) -All Gauges Replaced (New) -76 Years Old
Equipped With The Dauntless V6 Engine Made By Buick. Not The Original Engine But Was A Popular Replacement With More Power. I Purchased This Jeep As Is From The Previous Owner Who Stated It Runs Great But Needs Brakes. I Haven’t Tested Any Components But The Engine Does Roll Over By Hand. There Is Not A Title But They Are Simple To Obtain If Wanted For Road Use. You Don’t See Them In This Good Of Shape Often. This Unit Is Worth Substantially More Completed.”

 
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Olgesby Cast Jeep St. Charles, IL $25

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This could be good for parts or a rebuild. Replacement windshields can be found here.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1340105314048238/

“Missing sterling wheel and front windshield. 70 years old”

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1954 M-170 Anaheim, CA $10,000

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UPDATE: Price dropped to $10,000.

(04/03/2023) Looks in great shape. No description provided, but a video is included of it driving.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/222144860829526

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1960 CJ-5 Beloit, WI $5000

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This may run and drive. It has been sitting a few years.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/902767391463724/

“See photos. Listing for my father so please be patient for replies. Vehicle is located in Janesville. Mileage I do not have.”

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1952 M-38A1 Brownsville, OR $2750

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TJ spotted this project. Given the winch, and the price, this running jeep may be worth a look. Can’t tell what condition the body is in due to snow.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/931160111430905

“Needs a new home, just been sitting. Rancho suspension, buick odd fire v6. She starts and drives with external fuel supply. Comes with 15 gallon fuel tank and line. Needs work. No trades please”

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1954 CJ-3B Porterfield, WI $1500

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Maybe some parts value?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/882441293547524/

“Had it running 7-8 years ago believe its a 1950 bill of sale mostly all there”

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1950 CJ-3A Billerica, MA $2500

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Thanks to Geoff for spotting this one. It could be a good price!

https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/for/d/north-billerica-willys-jeep-1950/7719169651.html

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“The Willys has been sitting in a temperature controlled garage since the early 1990’s and hasn’t been started in years, so you will need a trailer or ramp truck to remove.

A complete list of all parts currently available for restoration will be available with the vehicle.

May be seen by appointment only. Contact via email.

$2500.00 cash. Lower offers in person only. Delivery not available, but we can help load.”

 
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1964 Jeep News Volume 10 Number 7

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This end-of-year 1964 Jeep News Volume 10 Number 7 was expanded to twelve pages. The issue starts with some dealer news on page one. Page two reports on the success of Meyer hardtops and how demand forced an increase in production at Meyer Products, Inc. Dealers found them easier than most to install with less rattles while driving. On the lower left of page two, it’s noted that Jeep dealers often loaned jeeps to campaign committees of both parties. I didn’t know that happened.

Page three includes a story about Cold Spring, New York, ‘Jeep’ dealer William M. McAndrew and how his firm loaned 4WD vehicles to fire fighters during a hard-to-reach fire. On page three’s lower left is a rare XM-677 sighting, though much of it is blocked by Brazilian Army officers. Page four begins with a letter from Bruce Grantland, who wrote a review of the Wagoneer for Trailer Life Magazine (09/64). Page four also includes a pic from the “Kaiserama” exhibit, then located at the Kaiser center in Oakland, California. Page five has mostly dealer news, though a pic of some the 42 jeeps owned by the Nursery Company out of Azusa, California is included.

Pages six and seven share international news and pics. Page eight includes a photo of the Radio Patrol Club operated by the Keystone Automobile Club that traveled the Philadelphia metropolitan area helping folks in trouble. Page nine highlights some KJC military vehicle news. Pages ten and eleven shows a Gladiator Fire Truck, among other story snippets. Page twelve covers some Canadian jeep news.  It also includes a photo of an FC-150 pulling a big truck with a three-story-house as its cargo; the little jeep that could!

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September 1962 Jeep Service and Parts News

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The four-page 1962 Jeep Service and Parts News didn’t ‘wow’ me, but maybe you all see something I don’t.

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1961 CJ-5 Morristown, NJ $23,000

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Gary shared this low-mile CJ-5, which rings in at 6,619 miles (assuming it hasn’t been run backwards). Given the overall condition, it seems probable that the mileage is accurate, though I’m surprised at the mods given its short work life.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/676854427864186

“Selling a one registered owner 1961 CJ5. 6k ORIGINAL MILES. I bought from original owner 20 some years ago. Still in his name with ORIGINAL NJ title . This CJ5 is as good as you could ever find. ORIGINAL EVERYTHING including tires. ( Goodyear Suburbanites). He used it to plow his drive and go to town. Parked it in heated basement with chains still on it in 1983. Hasn’t been started in 40 years. A TIME CAPSULE”

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1947 CJ-2A Kubota-Powered North Dakota **SOLD**

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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $15,000.

“-Freshly rebuilt Kubota V2203 engine with Overland Diesel adapter and turbo kit.
-Stock 3 speed with Dana 18 t case
-New soft top and doors.
-Rebuilt front end with Lock Rite locker and disc brakes
-Rebuilt rear end
-31” tires with Beadlock wheels
-Has rear seat
-Warn 8274 winch”

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1942 GPW Olympia, WA $9500

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It’s a project.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/d/olympia-willys-gpw/7717383201.html

“2 Ford GPW, too many projects. GPW engine, capstan winch that works off the front of the engine, F marked seats, no rear seat, 5 combat rims the two front are new from Joes moter pool, they are DOT approved, new tires and tubes, new windshield, and glass, new fuel tank, and fuel system new wheel brake cylinders, new brake master cylinder, new brake lines. 1942 title.”

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1952 M-38A1 Olympia, WA $4500

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It runs; might be worth a look.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/d/olympia-willys-1952-m38a1/7717381979.html

“1952 M38a1, still 24 volt system. Runs, licensed.”

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1958 DJ-3A Cumming, GA $8500

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Unclear if the doors aren’t installed or missing entirely.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/216369894835139

“1958 Willys Run good. It had a restoration many years ago. Possible trade. Pm. For details”

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1959 CJ-5 Aumsville, OR $4950

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It’s supposed to have a “new” Buick V6, but I imagine it is a rebuilt one? The body underside looks good.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/d/aumsville-1959-willys-cj5-jeepnew/7718032368.html
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“SOLID rust free, great running Willys CJ5

Previous owner had done loads of work…PAINTED under carriage/frame, while body-off….4 speed /Sweet running new professionally rebuilt “Dauntless V6”…new carburetor and brand-new top. Has aluminum wheels. It runs/drives very well, ready for your finishing touches making it all yours. Perfect for the:

“Jeep-off-road cultural experience”

Presently located: Jake’s (my mechanic) farm east of Salem… 8 miles. Please text or email with any questions and/or for appointments.”

 
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1954 M-38A1 Clearlake Oaks, CA $2500

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TJ shared thins one. Unclear if this runs.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1595870374506093

“Project CAR Willys”

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1961 FC-170 Brackney, PA $2500

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UPDATE: Price dropped to $2500.

(10/28/2022) Looks like a parts FC. No title.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/979501010265759

“1961 jeep fc 170. It has the original super hurricane in it. Definitely needs body work but frame is in great shape and engine turns over. It also comes with another cab for replacement. It’s a project I’ll never get to. $2,500 shoot me a message for any more info”

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1964 Jeep News Volume 10 Number 6

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Te eight-page 1964 Jeep News Volume 10 Number 6 begins with a record retail sales announcement. These revenue numbers were primarily driven by the three models shown at the bottom of page one, including the Tux Park CJ-5, the Wagonneer, and the Gladiator. Increasing numbers of dealers also helped. Page two mentioned how the golf partnership was already providing beneficial, with inquiries numbering in the hundreds arriving at dealers. Page three shows three of the new KJC-approved “ad mats” available for dealers to place in local newspapers.

Page four highlights a dealer in Ohio that tries to sell a Meyer plow with every jeep sale, claiming it isn’t that hard to do. Page five provides the results of a dealer contest. Page six shares the news of the National Search and Rescue group and their recent election. Page eight turns international, with pics and captions from around the world. On page eight you’ll find the results of Boulder, Colorado’s, 4th annual Jeep-O-Rama. The winner of a brand new CJ-5 was Donnie Beyer, whose father owned a jeep dealership. Pretty good for a 17-year-old kid! Lower on the page is a DJ-3A with an unusual door and top setup. Finally, on the lower right, is a fairly well-know pic of Barb Eden (right) and Shelley Fabares with a DJ-3A Surrey from the movie “Ride the Wild Surf” (see trailer at bottom).

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(yes, a Surrey makes a quick appearance in this trailer):

 
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February 1962 Jeep Service and Parts News

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The four-page February 1962 Jeep Service and Parts News wasn’t all that exciting, lol, but is timely considering it is now February 2024 (yes, 62 years have passed!). Page three mentions a couple service bulletins that can be found at the bottom of this post. Page four mentions the Pedal Slack Adjuster Kit, which is also discussed at the CJ-3B page: https://cj3a.info/tech/pedalslack.html

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Service Bulletin No. 503:

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Fleet Service No. FL-119 (Same info would be on Service Bulletin No. 504, but I don’t have that one):

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