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The DJ-3A vs the DJ-3A Gala vs the DJ-3A Surrey

• CATEGORIES: DJ-3A, Features, videos, Women & Jeeps • TAGS: , .

UPDATE:  Bruce let me know that there were three different windshields sported by the DJ-3A:

1. The typical 3A type with the vent that opens up;

2. It also came with what is referred to as the 3B WS frame. That green jeep (see below) probably has it’s original WS frame;

3. The 3rd style is the ventilating WS frame that is similar to the 2a frame in
that the glass tilts outward. This 3rd type is very rare and I have only
seen one DJ with the 3rd style

OVERVIEW

I’ve been meaning to write this history of sorts about the DJ-3A ever since I received this information from Bruce last October.  Many thanks to Bruce for his tireless effort to understand the DJ-3A and his desire to share this information with the world-at-large.

I would still not consider this post finished, as I’m sure a few of you have some interesting details to add or correct.

THE GOAL:

My goal here is to take Bruce’s information and organize it in a way to make sense of this strange thing called the DJ-3A Dispatcher Gala Surrey Not-quite-a-CJ-3A colorful Jeep.   I want to differentiate between these three models — DJ-3A/DJ-3A dispatcher, DJ-3A Gala, and the DJ-3A Surrey — so that I can better evaluate these vehicles when I run across them for sale.

So, let’s begin:

One of the more confusing series of jeeps I’ve encountered are the DJ-3A, the DJ-3A Gala and the DJ-3A Surrey. However, thanks to both information from Bruce (who also supplied Derek Redmond with much of the DJ-3A Gala Surrey information and pics on the CJ-3B Page) and an article in the December 2009 issue of Vintage Truck Magazine, I *think* I have a much better feel for this topic.

Importantly, and for clarification, based on all the research I have reviewed, there appears to be no such thing as a DJ-3A Gala Surrey (and I’m as responsible as anyone for describing them that way).  The literature I have received from Bruce refers to either a DJ-3A Gala or a DJ-3A Surrey.  The Gala’s were promoted as Gala’s at the international resorts and Hawaii (which became a state in 1959, which might explain why this was being handled like an international sale).

THE DJ-3A & DJ-3A DISPATCHER:
The DJ-3A was introduced in 1955. It used the body style of the older CJ-3A, along with the L-134 engine. Unlike the CJ-3A, it came with either a column shift or top loader three-speed T-96 manual transmission. It was offered with many different body options including a soft top, hard top, or even a full van body.  Some of these body options made changes to the body necessary, including some that had no tailgates so the spare tire could mount in the rear.

Others, like the DJ-3A Dispatchers, had differently shaped passenger and driver sides to allow easy entry & exit of the vehicle (I assume those were the reasons).  With all these different body options, it is no wonder many of us, and yours truly as well, were confused about what constitutes a DJ-3A.

Thus far, everything I’ve learned suggests that there were no 4wd DJ-3A’s produced.  So, if you encounter a 4wd DJ-3A, it’s been modified.

Probably, the most distinctive, unique, and consistent body attribute of a DJ-3A is the large speedometer, similar to the CJ-5 and the post-1955 CJ-3B speedometers.  It was the only ‘low hood’ flat fender produced with the large speedometer.

EXAMPLES:

Below is a Convertible DJ-3A.  You can see the lack of 4wd in the front.  Click on the picture to see more pictures.  Though I thought the below windshield was from a CJ-3B, Bruce provided a correction to that statement.  He says some DJ-3As came with a 3B SW Frame, and he believes that’s what we are looking at in this pic.

Here’s an example from Chris of a DJ-3A without a tailgate.


Here’s a DJ-3A Dispatcher example (note cutout sides) with a tail gate:

And here’s another nice dispatcher with a top:

THE DJ-3A GALA:

In early 1959, the DJ-3A Gala was introduced and marketed to vacation locations in an attempt to offer rentable transportation solutions for vacationers visiting resorts.  According to the article below, the idea was the brain child of the Las Brisas Resort in Acapulco, Mexico, which painted a few jeeps pink and offered them to consumers.  Louis Yocich, a Willys dealer, spotted them and brought the idea back to the factory.  To this day, the Las Brisas resort and hotel still refers to itself as a ‘Pink and White Paradise” (see quality control comment).

MUCH MUCH More information.  This post was simply too big to put on the front page:

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1960 DJ-3A Surrey St. Louis, MO **SOLD**

• CATEGORIES: DJ-3A • TAGS: , , .

UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $42,500

“This example in the rare colors of Cerulean Blue and Glacier White is probably the best completely restored example in the world. Everything has been done to the highest standards from the paint and chrome to the bright waterproof fabric upholstery and surrey top. The underhood presentation is exceptional and no detail has been ignored. Much more practical than a Moke or Jolly with legendary Jeep reliability this is a superb and entirely practical vehicle for bright summer days at the shore lake or ranch and will vie with Bentleys and Ferraris for pride of place in valet parking lots in Hollywood the Hamptons or South Beach. $42,500”

 
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Quinn’s new Trailer Advertiser

• CATEGORIES: Advertising & Brochures, Builds, Features

Quinn dropped me a note today.  He just finished a new project and wanted to share it with us.  Does this mean your you and your wife can write off the jeep? Thanks for sharing!

Quinn writes, “I finally finished my mobile billboard advertising trailer (see attached pictures).  I use my M38 to pull it around town when running errands …… it generates leads for my wife’s real estate business.

NOTE: The base utility trailer was purchased from Harbor Freight  [ed note: maybe this one?] for $150 and the vertical box and rear door were made using 90 degree angled steel strips.  It’s fairly light weight and due to the short length of the Jeep, the entire rig fits into house garages, parking structures and street parking spaces.  The trailer also has an 875lb load capacity which makes it convenient for carrying camping gear or the occasional BBQ equipment/supplies.”

 
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1946 CJ-2A Midland, Tx **SOLD**

• CATEGORIES: CJ-2A • TAGS: .

UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $3700.

Here’s another hunter out of Texas.

“For Sale 1946 Willys Jeep. Untitled and set up for hunting or ranching. Industrial foam filled tires-(NO FLATS). New springs front & back, New gas tank. New brakes front & back, new alternator. Newly rebuilt starter —-This jeep runs and works great, the only reason I want to sell it is to restore a CJ5 I just bought”

 
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7 Willys (6 Wagons & 1 Truck) Cleburne, TX **SOLD**

• CATEGORIES: Willys Trucks, Willys Wagons • TAGS: .

UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $4750.

“1949-1953 6-Willys Wagons and 1- 4×4 Willys P/U, My collection of 10 Yrs, kept in barns and shop for restoration. Sell or trade, choice for $1750.00 or $4750.00 for all”

 
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1953 CJ-3B Doddridge, Ar eBay

• CATEGORIES: CJ-3B • TAGS: , .

This is a good looking CJ-3B with unusual striping.

“You are bidding on a beautiful original 1953 Willys Jeep CJ-3B.  Black plate California jeep.  This jeep runs very good with no oil consumption or leaks.  The only rust is on the front fender where it meets the grill and the tailgat has a crack where the spare tire carrier used to be as seen in the pictures.  It has a new clutch and pressure plate installed last year.  The top is almost new with one small tear in the passenger door  that happened when it was hauled to Arkansas from California in 2009.  It also has a canopy top in good shape for those warm summer days.  All 3 seats show some wear but have no rips or tears.  The speedometer does not work the needle is broken off in the gauge.  It has chrome rims and good street tires.  The engine, transmission, twin stick transfer case and third members are all in good shape with easy shifting and no strange noises.  New brakes were installed in 2009.  The jeep comes with a tow bar for towing behind your motorhome.  I have owned this jeep for over 10 years and bought it from a friend who used it on his horse ranch.  This is a great jeep, a lot of fun and I would not  hesitate  to drive it anywhere.  Good  luck bidding and enjoy this historical masterpiece.  THIS IS A NO RESERVE AUCTION.  Any questions just  e-mail me. This is sold AS IS with no warranty.”

View all the pics on eBay

 
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1950 Jeepster Pomona, CA **SOLD**

• CATEGORIES: Jeepster • TAGS: , .

UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $16900.

“The canvas is on this jeep looks amazing.”

 
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1960 Truck Fredericksburg, Tx **SOLD**

• CATEGORIES: Willys Trucks • TAGS: , .

UPDATE**SOLD** Was on eBay

“Frame on restoration done approximately 3 years ago. New wiring harness, Brakes, Interior, new tires, gas tank, Runs great, Original flat head six, Transfer may need a synchronizer, jumps out of gear if not tied down, simple fix I’m told  This truck is and was rust free from the begining. A plus for a truck this age.”

 
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1949 CJ-2A Skiatook, Ok $5000

• CATEGORIES: CJ-2A • TAGS: , .

UPDATE:  Price dropped to $5000

(01/12/10) This CJ-2A has a few interesting features.  One is the spare tire holder, which uses a strategy I’m considering for my build.  Also, this jeep runs the treadwright retread tires.

“1949 CJ2A – Excellent (not perfect) condition. Has been redone from the ground up. A must see. Starts, runs, steers, brakes. Many features including a Warn overdrive, Tulsa Ramsey winch (electric), Saginaw steering, 12 volt electric system with alternator and modern lights. I have used it – it is not a garage decoration. Engine was torn down, did not need rebuilt/bored…and was filled with new parts. Transmission and Transfer case have been rebuilt. Has a dual master cylinder. Parking brake works.”

http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/1605932188.html

 
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1957 FC-150 Wilmington, NC eBay

• CATEGORIES: FC150-FC170-M677 • TAGS: .

Ok, I can’t resist … something’s fishy about this FC :-).  Actually, it looks in good, unrestored condition.  The paint job is certainly one-of-a-kind.

“This is one great little Jeep!  I bought this on Ebay almost 3 years ago and it has no doubt been my favorite out of the 30+ Jeeps that I have owned in the past several years. It has the stock drivetrain, 134ci F-head 4 cylinder, t-90 3 speed, dana spicer model 18 transfer case and dana axles.  The motor runs good no knocking, ticking or smoke.  Original 6 volt system.  4 wheel drive works fine: high and low and front locking hubs.  It has a warn winch with a good controller that was rigged to a battery and solenoid in the bed but I have never tried to operate it and the battery has been removed.  It has a heavy duty custom front bumper and the rear bumper is a custom tube air tank with a guage and air hose hook up to fill your tires, beach toys or run tools.  The tailgate opens and closes fine, windows go up and down and the doors shut very tightly.  There are no rattles or loose parts on this Jeep, it is solid.  The floorboards look like they have been patched with metal and there is a layer of outdoor carpet for insulation and rubber flooring over that.  The heater works, horn works and all guages work.  The seats are black vinyl, firm and in great shape except for a small hole in the back of the passenger seat.  The inside floor of the bed is flakey around the bottom edges but there is no rust through anywhere on this Jeep.  The frame of course has surface rust and maybe some pitting I guess you would say but is still very solid.  The rear cab corners have had new metal replaced on them but it is a very solid repair as well.  This is the first year these were made and it has the narrow track axles which I think make it look even more unique….”

View all the pics and info on eBay

 
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1945? CJ-2A? Scotts Valley, Ca $4500

• CATEGORIES: CJ-2A • TAGS: .

UPDATE:  Still Available.

(10/06/09) I don’t anything to indicate this is a ’45 or a VEC.  It appears the body is a replacement body. It appears in good shape.

“1945 Willy’s Civilian Jeep, 302 FORD V8, new radiator, new alternator, new clutch, new slave cylinder, new master cylinder, new shocks, new tires tow package overall great condition, CHERRY price $4,500.00, must sell 831-247-3669 ”

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/atq/1607566949.html

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1954 CJ-3B Burlington, CO **SOLD**

• CATEGORIES: CJ-3B

UPDATE: **SOLD** Was4500

“1954 Willys Jeep. Asking $4,500 OBO. Has original 4 cyclinder engine run good. Locker axles in the back, power steering, tilt wheel, winch, stereo etc. Would be great jeep for the mountains.”

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1951 CJ-3A Monroe, Ut $4500

• CATEGORIES: CJ-3A • TAGS: .

It’s got a funky rollbar, but otherwise looks pretty sound.

“1951 Willys CJ3A. Very good condition. No rust! The guy I purchased it from brought it from Soutern CA and had the motor rebuilt, about 1200 miles ago. I put all new suspension, springs, shackles, and shocks.Comes with a custom made bikini top and 2 sets of tires, one stock size, and one oversized. currently registered as an antique.”

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=9721862&lpid=&cat=264

 
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Working TH350 w/Adapter Salt Lake City, Ut $250

• CATEGORIES: Transmissions

Here’s a fantastic price on a Th350 tranny w/adapter w/ the chev bolt housing for only $250!  The adapter alone sells for $500ish new.

“I have a th350 tranny.I was told it was rebuilt a few years ago by tanner transmission worked fine when I took it out of my 1942 willys jeep with a 4.3L v6.Right now it has a Advanced Adapters adapter to put it with a dana 20 t-case(i have one for sale in my other ad)if you don’t want the adapter it’s $200 for the tranny.  Call or text me at 801-913-9305 I don’t always pick up i work at a shop so leave me a message I’ll get back to you”

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=9408869&cat=&lpid=

 
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1964 CJ-5 Highland, Ut $2000

• CATEGORIES: CJ5

This sounds like a good price on a CJ with new tires and brakes. There’s a couple things that puzzle me.  The reversed springs in the front and the M-38a1 dash would suggest, well, a M-38a1; However, the serial number suggests a CJ-5.

“64 CJ Willys jeep. Runs and drives great, New brakes and tires this winter. Not much has been done with this jeep as I have no time. Job transfer is forcing the sale, We dive this jeep about three times a month and almost everytime it snows in the winter..”

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=9568363&lpid=&cat=402

 
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1947 CJ-2A Klamath Falls, OR **SOLD**

• CATEGORIES: CJ-2A • TAGS: , .

UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $10,000.

You gotta see this one.

“1947 Willy’s (Airport Jeep). Extremely rare designed and built for airport use. All original very good condition runs great! Not licensed or registered. Has been on the Klamath Falls airport for 50 years and in storage for the last 28 years!!!”

 
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1959 CJ-5 Lyons, Or $3000

• CATEGORIES: CJ5 • TAGS: , .

This looks straight and solid.

“i have 59 jeep willy it has the origional motor and tranny. it has no rust, i wanted to fix it up but i ran out of money. it needs a tune up and a little bit of break work . but besides that its cherry. it just needs a good home. im asking for 3,000 OBO or willing to trade. if interested please call me at 503 798 1168”

http://salem.craigslist.org/cto/1605951364.html

 
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1956 CJ-5 La Grande, OR **SOLD**

• CATEGORIES: CJ5

UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $2500

“I am forced into selling my 1956 Willy’s Jeep. It is in pretty good condition for it’s age. It has a nice vinyl top and a new backseat. It has one very small patch of rust on the rear tailgate.  Due to an accident that I had and being out of town for work, we haven’t been able to use it for awhile but last time we used it, it ran very well. Right now it won’t start and we believe it is a bad starter. We just haven’t had time to find out.  We use it on the farm and in the mountains. A really fun 4 wheeler and hunting rig. We have dropped the asking price by a considerable amount because of the starter.  It has a winch on the front and also a tow bar. It has fancier wheels than are shown in these pictures and larger tires. The tires are in fairly good condition.

Whoever had it before we did, cut the front fenders to put huge tires on it. We removed the tires and put a more reasonable size on it but we never got the fenders replaced. We put fender flares on it, which look okay. It does have bigger tires than are shown in the pictures and nicer wheels.  If you are interested, I will take current pictures with the other wheels and tires. It’s just been such crummy weather that I didn’t think I could get a good picture. These pictures are only a year or so old.”

 
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1961 Wagon Oregon City, OR **SOLD**

• CATEGORIES: Willys Wagons • TAGS: , .

UPDATE:  **SOLD** Was listed at $5900.

The pic is small, but this looks like a nice rig.

“One of a kind; few this nice around!  Original 226 Continental flathead 6 cylinder, Warn hubs, 16 inch wheels / tires, clean interior, nice paint, Koenig mechanical drive winch / bumper.”

 
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1958 FC-170 China Grove, NC $4500

• CATEGORIES: FC150-FC170-M677 • TAGS: .

The paint is faded, but I can’t tell if rust rims the edges or not.  It’s got PTOs front and back.

“For Sale: 1958 FC 170 Willys Jeep Truck 4×4. It has a PTO in front of jeep and a nd a PTO in the truck bed. Motor runs excellent. No Title but can get a bonded title for truck. Motor is a super hurricane 6 cylinder 46000 miles on truck Good For Restoration. Price is 4500.00 may be nego. call If interested 704-857-0269 or 704-798-0307 ask for Jeff or Edie”

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/1604876522.html

 
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1969 Wagoneer Tacoma, WA **SOLD**

• CATEGORIES: Willys Wagons

UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $2500.

This looks clean and solid.  I don’t review many of these (they don’t usually pop up in my searches), but it looks like at least a decent deal.  I was thinking about getting my son one of these for his 16th birthday.  It would be something with 4wd (good for the salt lake area) that he could use in winter and use to explore the desert.

“New starter motor, new fuel pump, new tuneup. 100K plus miles, excellent condition for a ’69. 4 wheel drive, automatic on the floor, 350 V8, Tilt wheel, turbo 400 transmission. Runs great, needs brake job.”

 
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1947 CJ-2A Mead, Co $1550

• CATEGORIES: CJ-2A

This looks like a great price.  Maybe it doesn’t run?

“1947 willys 2a original body has newer buick V6 225, 3 speed T90 trans, I have all three seats 1550.00 call Steve @ 720 244 6642”

http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/1605665982.html

 
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1952 Wagon El Paso, TX **SOLD**

• CATEGORIES: Willys Wagons

UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $1000.

There might be some value here.

“Lets make a deal. 1952 Original Willys Wagon. Engine turns and was told it was running. It seems like it has be overhauled. 3 speed trans w/ overdrive is out but all pieces are there. 2 wheel drive, colum shift, NO title will give bill of sale. Make me an offer or lets trade something. i.e. hunting quad , jeep 4×4, guns etc.”

 

 
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1948 CJ-2A China Grove, NC $5500

• CATEGORIES: CJ-2A

UPDATE:  Still Available

(02/06/10) It’s almost done …

“1948 cj2a Willys Jeep for Sale. It is 90% restored. All it needs is a few light switches and a brake job. If interesed call 704-857-0269 or 7047980307 as for Jeff or Edie. Price is 5500.00 or may be nego.”

http://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/1604846562.html

 
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Postcards from the Past

• CATEGORIES: Features, Old Images, Postcards

Gerald forwarded me some classic offroad postcards he owns.  He says he’s got some more and I look forward to see them!  These three cards take us across the country.

We start at Cape Cod:

Here is a card from South Dakota:

Finally, here’s a shot from the Oregon Dunes.