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1953 CJ-3B Cathedral City, CA $15,000

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UPDATE: Still Available.

(03/06/2021) This 3B looks solid. It has some unmarked Watson style Hubs (possibly bought through Sears).

https://palmsprings.craigslist.org/cto/d/palm-springs-restored-1953-willys-jeep/7306045356.html

“53B Willys CJ mechanically and cosmetically restored, original engine and drive train with 12volt system, 20 year service record, stored in temperature and humidity controlled garage. Jeep is in showroom condition. Runs great and will pass inspection. Comes with spare tire and tow bar.”

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Warn Dimpled Summer Hubs Storrs, CT eBay

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Ted’s got these dimpled Warn summer hubs for sale. The dimpled versions are the second gen summer hubs; the first were the waffle style. The OEM green container is particularly rare.

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“Willys Jeep CJ2A CJ3A Early Column Shift CJ3B CJ5 Warn Summer Hub Universal Jeep. Condition is “Used”.
This is a very nice set of Willys Jeep Warn brand Summer Hubs with original carrying case.These Summer Hubs were a very popular aftermarket item introduced by the Warn manufacturing company and used to help eliminate uneven tire wear,wear and tear on front axle joints,differential gear bearings, Pinion and front drive shaft.

Basically, these Summer Hubs made the Willys Jeep Two Wheel Drive when Four Wheel Drive wasn’t needed for long lengths of time. They would be installed very easily be removing front drive flanges and mounting hubs.They would also give the jeep better gas mileage.

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AVM Automatic Hub

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This photo showing an AVM Automatic hub popped up on the ECJ5 forum the other day. You’ll note it makes a reference to Warn. While I’ve yet to confirm this with Hugo Vidal, this looks to be a great example of an AVM automatic hub that was patterned after the Warn automatic hub, a brief and failed experiment by Warn to have hubs that didn’t require manual engagement.

For those that don’t know, AVM was started by Hugo Vidal in 1957 (AVM) after a handshake-deal with Arthur Warn while Hugo and his two friends were driving a CJ-3B around the Americas (Brasil to Alaska, 1955 on CJ3B.info). Using Warn’s specs, Hugo was able to resell Warn tech under the AVM brand. Eventually, AVM expanded outside of Brazil. After 50 years, Hugo retired from AVM. Hugo and Warn (and his son) never had an actual contract. It was always a handshake deal built on trust.

Hugo was so important to Brazil’s jeep history that FCA Brazil called him First Citizen of Jeep Nation in a 2018 video that can be seen here: Post Alaska Or Rust Item: FCA Brazil’s Video of Hugo Vidal

 
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NOS Selectro Hubs Gonzales, CA $400

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Looks to be 10 spline hubs.

https://monterey.craigslist.org/pts/d/gonzales-jeep-willys-selectro-hubs/7288012770.html

“NOS selectro hubs. Jeep willys ford gpw. Cj2a. Cj3a. Cj5 from 1942-1971
International scout 80,800 models with dana 25, 27. $400 obo cash can ship via usps paypal”

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1945 MB Albany, NY $7000

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Has an MB body with some CJ parts. It has a rare set of Hub Lok hubs.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/806451573247465/

“1945 jeep solid and clean. Fresh paint and new battery”

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NOS 4-Wheel-Drive Branded Selector-Style Hubs on eBay

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The starting price for these is $350. The hubs include instructions, though there’s no reference to Husky, Dualmatic or Selectro.

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“Vintage Jeep Selecto Type Locking Hubs model H5024A. New old stock, has some shelf wear as pictured.”

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1953 M-38A1 Scottsboro, AL $1200

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Has some parts value at the very least. Also had some Allstate or Husky hubs.

https://huntsville.craigslist.org/pts/d/scottsboro-1953-willys/7266592668.html

“Willys ran 2 years ago, backed in shop. It will turn over. 1200 obo .”

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NOS? 10-Spline Selectro Hubs Gonzales, CA $500

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These look like they’ve never been mounted. What’s most interesting to me is that associated docs, which affirm Selectro hubs were made by Husky products (there is a short discussion of Husky making Selectro hubs on this very long page). These documents would have been produced after 1972, as that was the Heavy Duty Selectro hubs were released.

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1955? Warn Hub Catalog and Price List

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The catalog number for this Warn Hub document is 2-55, which might mean February of 1955. It shows the WL-2 Locking model on one side and the WA-1 Automatic model on the other.

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Warn Hub Service Manuals WA-1, WL-2 and WO-1

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UPDATE: I found this 18-page Warn Selective Drive Hub Service and Repair Manual on eBay last week. This appears to be an earlier version (February of 1955?) than the PDF version linked to at the very bottom of this post (which covers WL-2 and WO-1 hubs).  It covers the WA-1 Automatic Hub and the WL-2 hub. This is document No. WD-255.

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Sears-branded Selectro Hubs on Ebay

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These Sears-branded Selectro hubs have the smaller ribbed style.

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“Aftermarket Sears Manual Locking Hubs Taken Off Willys MB Fits CJ2A GPW Jeep CJ. Condition is “Used”. Used take offs for rebuild or parts. D-bubba-ing my 1945 MB and finally got around to removing these off the front axles. As is condition. The Jeep has not run since I acquired it and therefor these are untested in driving conditions. Mounting bolts are not included.”

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Warn Summer Hubs Hickory Corners, MI **SOLD**

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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $350.

(10/04/2020) These warn hubs are a bit warn. These dimpled versions are the second gen summer hubs; the first were the waffle style.

“WARN hub set in original metal case. Dimpled design. Converts your old Jeep into 2wd only while these are installed… thus why they have become known as “summer hubs!” Freewheeling installation to keep your front axles and differential from turning with front wheels. Should fit the CJ-2a cj3a mb gpw probably even the cj5? Don’t know for sure.”

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Warn Hub Parts Franklin Park, PA $80

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Some Warn hub parts.

https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/d/sewickley-hubs-ford-warn-jeeo/7239038363.html

“various complete hubs and hub parts Ford/jeep and at least two sets of Warn hubs extra gears housings”

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Free-Lock Hubs on eBay

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UPDATE: These Free-Lock hubs are still available.

(11/18/2020) This ebay ad for Free-Lock hubs provides the most detailed pics I have for this version of the hub. These are 27 spline, which means they were produced after 1972? If that’s the case, then for some reason the Free-Lock brand that was abandoned circa 1959 was resurected for these hubs.

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“Vintage Free-Lock Locking Hubs Jeep CJ CJ5 27 Spline – Warn 9062 – 27 Spline (Wanted: new old stock locking hubs in small or large quantities)
Used
Engage and disengage properly
Same application as Warn 9062
Heavy duty hubs
6 Bolt
27 Spline”

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Imperfect .. Perfect Circle Branded 10-Spline Selectro Hubs on eBay

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These are imperfect Perfect Circle hubs as a cam is broken (see broken part in pic one). However, there are some useful photos of these Perfect Circle-branded 10-Spline Selectro Hubs.

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“Selling the used locking hubs in the pictures. These are aftermarket and called Perfect Circle. We don’t know much about these hubs. My husband said he removed these from a 1971 Jeep truck that was in a junkyard. He thought they were neat and brought them home. Of course they are the special 10 spline hubs. These appear to be complete, but the “cam” piece (#8 in the schematic) seems to be broken on at least one hub. Look closely at the pictures and determine if they are something you want. Maybe just a little eye candy for the bench area. These are being sold for parts or not working. Hopefully there are enough good parts here to allow someone to complete their project. These are very clean and ready for a new owner.”

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Lower left part is broken.

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As you can see, the Dualmatic schematic is similar to the Perfect Circle Schematic, though, surprisingly, the casting of the base is slightly different. I’m betting the cams are the same though.

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More pics of the Perfect Circle hubs.

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Early Warn Locking Hub Dash Sticker

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Maury spotted this image of an early Warn dash sticker on a Gladiator that was posted to the EarlyCJ5.com website. Anyone have a better example of it?

http://www.earlycj5.com/xf_cj5/index.php?threads/warn-locking-hub-dash-sticker.144960/#post-1613141

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Dualmatic Hubs Prosper, TX $125

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These look like the early Dualmatic lever hubs.

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/for/d/prosper-jeep-dualmatic-locking-hubs/7227545642.html

“Dualmatic Locking Hubs for Jeeps (vintage)
10-Spline
Removed from early Willys MB Jeep and are in full working order.”

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Allstate Hub on eBay

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This auction is for one Allstate-branded 10-spline hub.

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“1 OLD WILLYS 6 BOLT, 10 SPLINE LOCKOUT HUB, SEARS ROEBUCK & CO ALLSTATE, WORKS WELL, NO RETURNS”
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Unusual Dualmatic Hubs (Possibly for a Ford?)

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Tim’s father-in-law purchased these Dualmatic hubs, but Tim’s unsure what vehicle they fit. Given the hub model number is F-230, we believe these were likely used on a Ford truck (possible the F-250, as that was the model of truck his father-in-law had). Anyone recognize them or know if they’d fit on a 1960s/70s Ford truck? The hubs are 19 spline.

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Dualmatic Twin-Lever Hub Variations

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UPDATE: Here’s a related post of a rough history of Dualmatic and Selectro and Husky, as their histories intertwine.

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You’ll note that the patent number 2854111 is the same one connected to this single lever design: https://patents.google.com/patent/US2854111. Read to the end, as this patent number appears connected with an odd looking, Dualmatic-related hub.

This post is all Scott Gilbert’s fault. We got talking about the different color of Dualmatic hub labels on Sunday and, suddenly, my Sunday afternoon vanished into research!

This post leverages the great work from the CJ-2A.com’s dualmatic twin-lever page and the ih8mud hub forum about Dualmatic twin-lever hub variations. For the record, I’ve never owned any of these hubs, so I’m leveraging pics and the internet as best I can. It is a working post. If you have corrections or comments, please let me know!

If only I had each set of hub in front of me I might have a better shot at highlighting the differences (height and faces), but I do not have them. So, I’ll just do my best with the faces and some documentation for dating purposes.

I was going to use the CJ-2A page’s nomenclature, but after studying the different faces, I think it’s better, as I hope you will see, to expand the styles types:

Design A: Recessed center, full ribs, sharp-ended ribs
Design B: Raised center, full-ribs, sharp-ended ribs
Design C: Raised center, full-ribs, round-ended ribs
Design D: Raised center, one-end of both ribs recessed from the edge, all round-ended ribs
Design E: Raised center, both-ends of ribs recessed from the edge, all round-ended ribs
Design W: These were marketed by and stamped as Watson hubs (hence why I call them Watson hubs), but also stamped and sold by third-parties like Sears unstamped and unbranded.

Before we begin with the twin-lever design, let’s look at the single lever design. Dualmatic’s founder Charles Simonsen’s original patent was for a single lever design.

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This photo may highlight why that design didn’t hold up well and why support was needed for the cam levers:

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This photo was found on a G503 forum. You can see that the lever has been highly stressed.

CONJECTURE: If the bending of the single lever was even a somewhat common occurrence, then it would explain the shift to a dual lever, rib-supported design. One of those early designs may have been the Design W or the Watson hub seen at the bottom of the post, but it seems to me that when full of mud and small debris, that loosening the levers would have been difficult. So, my theory is that the next idea was Design A, which is the earliest one documented with a specific date.

DESIGN A: The earliest example of a Dualmatic hub with a date comes in the form of this April 1958 advertisement in Popular Mechanics. For our purposes, this would be Design A. It has full, un-rounded ribs and a recessed interior

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Design A hub with recessed center, full ribs, sharp rib ends.

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Design A hub with recessed center, full ribs, sharp rib ends.

Design A can also be seen in this undated brochure, most likely pre-1963 given the lack of full-size jeeps:

Curiously, Design A was still around in 1964, as evidenced by this 1964 Montgomery Wards catalog ad below, but a new type of style appeared, which I call Design C, with a raised center (for branding I assume) and full, but rounded-ribs (and around as late as August 1965 in a Four Wheeler Ad):

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Designs A & C Dualmatic hubs. Lower pic — Design A hub with recessed center, full ribs, sharp rib ends. Design C Dualmatic hubs with raised center, full ribs, round-ended ribs.

DESIGN C: Here is a better pic of Design C. You’ll note that the sticker branding is colored black. So far, the consensus is that there were three different colors of stickers, black, blue and red. Again, when each was used and why they changed is uncertain:

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Design C Dualmatic hubs with raised center, full ribs, rounded-ended ribs.

DESIGN B: At some juncture, Design B was introduced. Design B had a raised center and full, sharp ribs like Design A. You’ll also note that this has the red center branding sticker: Continue reading

 
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NOS Dualmatic Hubs on eBay

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Scott spotted these NOS Dualmatic hubs on eBay. I am not as familiar with the red stickers, but this looks to be a later version of these lever-activate hubs, solely based on the style of ribs.

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“NOS Dualmatic Locking Hubs Willys Jeep 10 Spline, Willys Mb, GPW, CJ2A Cj3a M38. New in the original box, I’m guessing from the 1950’s, or 1960’s. Some storage wear. All mounting bolts are there. Shipping $16”

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1955 CJ-5 Winchester, ID $9000

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What caught my eye about this one was the unusual hubs. Maybe an early Dualmatic (or dalmatic knock off?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/328676541631581

“Listing for a friend. 9k OBO”

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Cutlas 1961 Power-Lock and Selective Drive Brochures

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The Form-104 Selective drive brochure I’ve seen previously, but I’ve not seen the 1961 Power-Lock brochure.

This Power-Lock brochure is a tri-fold brochure that folds from 3.5″ x 5.5″ to 10.5″ x 5.5″

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This folded Cutlass Selective drive brochure has a form number of 104, but lacks a date. It is small, only folding in half from 3.5″ x 5.5″ to 7″ x 5.5″

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1942 GPW and Year? CJ-2A Vadito, NM $5000

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TJ shared this pair of jeeps that apparently is home to some snakes. Note that the red jeep has a set of Huffman hubs, the first set I’ve seen on a jeep for sale.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/fieldandbarnfinds/permalink/2006037949521043/

“Two army jeeps one Ford one willys both run both were in ww11! Call about prices serious offers accepted”

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Unknown Hubs … Anyone Recognize Them?

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I am looking for more information on these hubs. Anyone recognize them?

Austin Smith posted this unusual hub to G503 Facebook. He theorizes they may be a freewheeling hub of some kind, as he can find no way to spin the hubs nor, after disassembling it, did he find any internals to do so.

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This is installed on an Australian jeep. The hubs look similar to a Selectro type, but these have only three nodules around the outside:
selectro-dualmatic-unknown-versionRoger Martin spotted this odd hub on Rick Reilly’s Commando in 2019. This might be a free-wheeling hub:

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