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Amateurs Untie! (Oh damn, another mistake, I meant UNITE)

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Today I received an email from someone I do not know and was not a regular reader of the site. Like all the emails I receive, I answer it the best I can. However, sometimes I do make mistakes (which is painfully obvious if you follow the site regularly). In this particular situation, things went sideways quickly . . .

The emailer has a low mileage, 100% stock jeep that he is excited to sell. He told me it was so nice that he would “defy anyone” to find a better example of it. Challenge accepted!!

He then asked for my opinion on it and about listing it on eWillys, so I downloaded the pics he sent into my CJ-5 folder to review them. **Spoiler Alert** It is important for our story to know that there are a couple thousand photos in that one folder.

I looked through the pictures he sent, noting there were five interior photos that showed the dash and engine in excellent shape. The interior was green (forest green perhaps), clean, and appeared brand new. However, when I dropped to the last two photos it showed a jeep with a rough orange exterior and a shoddy soft top. I thought it strange that the inside was so nice and clean, but the oustide was poor. However, I was in a hurry, as I was trying to make dinner and finish rewrites on a book chapter so I could head to a party with my wife.

Therefore, I responded to the seller with an email that noted I thought the interior nice, but the exterior poor and not 100%. I said it looked like the exterior had been repainted and the top was unoriginal. It was hardly a brutal assessment of his jeep by any means. He thought otherwise . . .

Almost immediately after sending the email my jeepsense (kind of like spiderman’s spideysense??) told me revisit the photos. I just knew something wasn’t right. That’s when I realized the orange exterior shots belonged to a different jeep. Oops, my bad!! So, I fired off a second email within minutes of the first offering my apologies for my mistake and informing the seller that I thought the outside was as good as the inside.

Well, the seller was not pleased by the short review in my first email. You’d think I’d questioned his manhood or thanked his mother for last night. Rather than address my incorrect comments about the jeep’s exterior (about which I was clearly wrong) or wonder if I’d looked at the wrong photos, he attacked me.

He began by questioning my knowledge, calling me an “amateur.” Okay, so this is almost true. I’m not sure I make enough money to be called a professional, thus I am an amateur by its very definition. But, he didn’t stop there.

He also told me he doesn’t need amatuers—there’s the word again … how did he know— like me “spreading misinformation on truly classic vehicles.” He added that I reminded him “of the idiot at the title agency who said the odometer wasn’t correct.” Did he just compare me with someone from the DMV? (I must come clean that Ann did work for the DMV for a short time, so I know they aren’t all ‘idiots)

Finally, he offered me some advice, telling me to “get an education before making false statements.” Well, I would have him know that I bought a fine education from the University of Utah, but that has never helped me identify a jeep!!

By the end of his email I was sure his keyboard’s keys were melting from the heat of his prose. If I was his dog, I’m sure he would have kicked me. Perhaps he was confusing me with his dog?

Unfortunately for him, it seems he never got around to looking at my second email (and probably not the third one I sent following his response). Had he bothered to tone down the verbal abuse, he might have seen me apologize for a simple error. Perhaps his fury made it impossible for him to read. Who knows?

So, I publish this as a reminder to all readers. Sometimes I make mistakes and I greatly appreciate those willing to tell me that. Email can be a tricky communication tool, especially when I’m working on a book deadline!!!  So, if I say something that seems untrue, completely wacky, senseless, or without forethought, just send me a thoughtful message.

On the bright side, I believe that’s the nastiest email I’ve received all year. And, each year, there always seems to be someone pissed off at me for something. I guess it comes with job. Hopefully, nothing else tops it during the next two days!!!

So, to sooth the gentleman’s sensitive feelings, I’ve added this card:

sorry

 
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1983 CJ-5 Fort Atkinson, WI **SOLD**

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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $12,500.

Mark forwarded this one.

“Here is one of the lowest mile Jeeps around. 18k . 258 6 cyl. with the 4 speed manual trans. Small lift kit. Nice BFG tires. Soft top and bikini top. Runs drives looks like new. Very unique Jeep. Stored winters. Solid body. Very clean inside and out.”

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1962 Wagon Enumclaw, WA $4000

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UPDATE: Price dropped to $4000.

Looks solid:

“I have a 1962 Willys wagon 4×4 that was somewhat restored years ago. It has a completely rebuilt original engine and it runs like a watch. I drive it all the time but it had sat for a few years so it needs some work on the wiring to make everything work and the heater core leaks a little. The body looks nice and it isnt a rust bucket but its not perfect it has like new 31″ mt tires the interior is decent and it has a huge stero system. Its a cool old ride that wont take a lot to make it perfect. $5900 or trade for guy stuff , newer snowmobile, hotrod , jeep, projects, harley, let me know what you have. ”

http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/cto/5380683013.html

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1947 CJ-2A Oakhurst, CA **SOLD**

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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $2700.

It’s powered by an f-head.

“Just got it out of the barn after 10 years…Started right up!!!…Clean body, Not rusted, or cut up…Has a later model 4 banger in it(Runs like a sewing machine)…On non-op…Clean title in my name…Comes with the factory back seat, and aftermarket hardtop…The front buckets are out of

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1950 Wagon Clayton, NC $16,500

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Has some unusual bench fabric.

“2 door with a 11 year restore on it in great shape with 305 chevy motor and 350 transmission and 4×4 running gears all work great with a beach look interior. The body has not been chopped up & is all metal, just like it came from the factory. Has an all 12 volt system.Great for beach or running around in or use it for advertisement. Asking 16,500 or best offer maybe trade for something.”

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/5360508875.html

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1953 Wagon Redmond, OR **SOLD**

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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was Make Offer

“I have a 1953 willys 2wd panel for trade or sale or a combination of cash and trade. Its got mustang front suspension and a chevy small block 350/350 400hp pretty darn quick about 21,000 miles on it. American racing wheels sucide doors Runs and drives great. Needs a little tlc on the paint some chips one small dent but no rust or major damage. Will consider all trades please no motorcycles or boats…….I would love another bagged/lowered c10 or Blazer text works best. The rig is in central oregon. I would put a value of around 18k on mine with a little paint work it would be worth 20k+. Will consider cash offers but please dont low ball me……2wd panels are not a dime a dozen……”

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1962 Truck Vineland, NJ **SOLD**

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UPDATE:**SOLD** Was $12,500

(08/31/2015) Looks good.

“Engine: Chevy Small Block 400 bored 30 over, Carb is Tri-Power
New Interior
Hooker Block Huggers with 2 1/2″ Collectors
2 1/2″ DynoMax Turbo Mufflers
Mileage: 300 since rebuild
Trans: 350 Turbo
4WD Posi front and back
86 Ford Frame
Has some damage from a tree limb on back bed, and gate. Garage kept except last fourth of July brought out for a BBQ left out overnight and tree branch hit it. It went right back into garage and there it stayed.
2010 – President Red (Original Color) Acrylic Enamel with Hardener
The truck was appraised at 20k before the damage by Crazy Horse Hotrods in Millville, NJ and I still have that paperwork. It was insured by American Collectors Insurance for 25k.”

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1965 FC-170 Pawtucket, RI **SOLD**

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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $1650

(12/16/2015) It runs.

“We have a 1957-1965 Jeep Forward FC170 Truck for sale. The vehicle is 4WD, has a 6 cylinder Flat Head and a 3-speed manual transmission in it. The vehicle runs but has been parked. Odometer reads at 38k. The tires on the truck are in excellent/like new condition.”

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1948 CJ-2A Spokane Valley, WA **SOLD**

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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $3000

(09/22/2015) Needs some work.

“Lots of new parts, new tires and rims. Front bearings and spindles, brakes. Has 134-f motor. Has snow plow. Needs timing set and will be ready to run and brakes blead.”

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1947 CJ-2A Monroe, NC **SOLD**

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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $800.

Parts or project jeep.

“1947 Willys cj2a jeep
Engine turns over but I haven’t started it in a few years. The starter was scavenged for another jeep. Transmission is locked up but transfer case turns. Body and frame are rough but could be fixed, or stripped for parts. No title.
Doesn’t come with the rims/tires in pics, I will put on another set to load it up on, or bring your own.”

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1965 CJ-6 Montrose, Canada $3200

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It appears worth a look.

“New tires, brakes, wheel cylinders, wiring & mirrors. New Front fenders, shocks & steering.
Leather seats, body solid with no rust. Reconditioned radiator, soft top with new soft top doors.
PTO winch. 3 speed transmission, lots of spare parts, needs to be finished.”

http://cranbrook.craigslist.ca/cto/5378084944.html

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1962 CJ-3B Harmony, NC **SOLD**

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UPDATE: Was $500. **SOLD**

Some parts value?

“For sale 1962 willys jeep complete with clean title or part out.”

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1946? CJ-2A Birmingham, AL $2800

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UPDATE: Price dropped to $2800.

It runs.

“I have a 1946 ? Willys Jeep I think it has the original engine 4 cyl. Engine runs doesn’t smoke. I drove it from front of house to rear, several years back. That’s as far as I have drove it. Needs restoring.”

http://bham.craigslist.org/cto/5377760108.html

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1948 CJ-2A Fayetteville, AR **SOLD**

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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $4595

(09/23/2015) Good shape?

“All around good shape.
No title.
An extra set of tires comes with it.
Call for more details.”

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Santa Fireplace Display

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This December 1955 Willys News article shows a jeep exiting a fireplace in a Florida Jeep dealership. It looks too big for Santa to bring down the chimney, but a flat fender would have fit 🙂

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York-Hoover & the Early Bantams

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This interesting article about the York-Hoover Corporation and its manufacture of the the early Bantam bodies—Bantam BRC-60s like the one show below at the Heinz Museum in Pittsburgh—makes an interesting read:

http://www.ydr.com/story/news/history/blogs/yorkspast/2015/12/16/yh-jeep/77406456/

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1943 Photo of Jeep Assembly Line in England on eBay

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This photo shows part of the assembly line for building jeeps in England.

“1943 Press Photo US Army Ordnance Jeep Assembly Line Workers, England
This is an original press photo. Photo measures 10 x 8.25inches. Photo is dated 10-28-1943.”

View all the information on eBay

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1948 CJ-2A Clinton, MT **SOLD**

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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $10,000.

Not much “CJ-2A” left in this modified rig.

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“Custom Jeep For Sale $10,000

The Jeep is street legal in Montana, and is registered and licensed as a 1948 with a clear title. Tires stick out of the front fenders , Bushwacker rear fenders with slight tire stick out, no signal lights, legal head lights and tail lights, legal emergency brake, horn, single windshield wiper and washer, no front or rear bumper. To be registered in another state it just depends on that particular state’s laws. In Montana it’s considered a street rod and doesn’t have to have bumpers or fenders. The body is hand made and is eight inches longer at door opening than stock. No tail gate (solid) and the fender wells are flush with the top of the body. Most of the body panels have been riveted together, (not pop rivets!) Body has been sprayed with bed liner on the inside, rocker guard on the outside. Fiberglass hood.

Looks like a stock flat fender body at first look. Most people don’t notice the difference until you point it out as it’s all in proportion. It’s 5 ¼ inches wider at cowl, 3 ½ inches wider in rear. Sides are 2 inches taller. Body is all hand built except for the Jeep cowl. Grille is made from 2 MB grilles so that is proper width with two extra bars. Body and frame are painted with Military OD field drab. The only part that is original Jeep is the cowl that is made up from two cowls, and the grille. Rear bumper has receiver hitch. Side mirrors and mount, center rear view mirror. MB military jeep side handles.
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1963 CJ-5 Antrim, NH $2000

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It runs.

“We’re moving and are forced to get rid of our treasured jeep. It has some rust, needs some work, but it runs. You must see to appreciate. We are asking $ 2000 but will let it go for a reasonable offer. It will be sold “as is”.”

http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/5378455015.html

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1978 DJ-5 Oxnard, CA $2800

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Appears solid.

“Fun little jeep runs and drives give me a call for question”

http://ventura.craigslist.org/cto/5362752843.html

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1977 DJ-5 Carbondale, PA $7995

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I can’t tell if this is  two or four wheel drive.

“1977 am general army tribute jeep right hand drivewith replica guns real eye catcher partial trades maybe considered”

http://scranton.craigslist.org/cto/5375975908.html

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1946 CJ-2A Commerce City, CO **SOLD**

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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $3600.

(07/09/2015) Looks solid.

“1946 Willys Jeep with many upgraded parts, not the least of which is a 350 cubic inch Chevy V8 (in a 2200lb vehicle). Is it a highway speedster? No. Can you drive it around town and love life knowing you are driving the coolest little rig around… Yes!

Features:
Chevy 350
T14 3 Speed Transmission
M18 Transfer Case
D44 Rear Axle
D27 Front Axle
4.88 Gears
Upgraded 10″ Drum Brakes all the way around.
31″ off road tires
Working brake lights and turn signals (note that it did not come with these in 1946).
Full height seats with harnesses.
About 4.5 years left on the 5 year collector plates. Not sure if these are transferable.

I’m only selling because I have one too many projects and need the precious garage space. What it needs…
It has a slight oil pan leak. Likely needs a new gasket. No oil on the top part of the motor.
Body is in great shape for a 70 year old vehicle. A little elbow grease and a spray painter would make this thing cherry.”

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1962 Gladiator Truck Gilroy, CA **SOLD**

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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $2250.

Dan found this truck. This might make a good restoration project.

“1962 Willy’s Jeep J200 Gladiator thriftside pickup for sale.
-Original 6 cylinder tornado 230 cu engine runs
-Body is in excellent condition
-CA black plate vehicle
-Truck is non op status
-Will need to be towed
-Waiting for restoration”

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1949? CJ-2A Jamestown, TN **SOLD**

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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $1600

No all original, but appears to have some value.

“I have a 1949 Willy Jeep all Org. The jeep runs and drives great has 4 cylinder with 3 speed. It was 6v but changed to 12v. The bad on this jeep is floors was rusted out but been fixed has no gas tank but I have been running it off a gas jug for over a year, runs great off it, also No Breaks. Would like to sale due to my other projects might trade depending on what you have. Text thru week or call on weekends due to work Thanks”

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Year? CJ-3A Salem, WV **SOLD**

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UPDATE: **SOLD** Was $850.

The body looks pretty rough.

“Late 40’s early 50’s Willys Jeep CJ3A , looks to be complete
Engine turns over but will not start
Sold for parts or restoration project
Was last running 3 years ago
Rough condition , but looks like it’s all there. There is
No Title, being sold for parts, Farm use, or complete restoration.
There are a lot of cj2A’s and cj5s, but you don’t see many of these.
I will write a bill of sale.”

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